Jon Meacham Interview: On the Struggles that Define America

  • Jon Meacham explains why all history comes out of conflict and explores how the soul of America is shaped by the dueling forces of “our better angels” and our worst instincts by drawing from examples that include: Reconstruction after the Civil War, the rise and fall of the KKK and the creation of the NAACP.
    Jon Meacham is a renowned presidential historian, contributing writer for The New York Times Book Review, contributing editor at TIME, and a Pulitzer Prize-winning author.

    A member of the Council on Foreign Relations and of the Society of American Historians, Meacham is a distinguished visiting professor at Vanderbilt University.

    He has written for The New York Times op-ed page, The Washington Post, Vanity Fair, and Garden & Gun.

    Meacham is also a regular guest on “Morning Joe” and other broadcasts.

    Born in Chattanooga in 1969, Meacham graduated from The University of the South in Sewanee, Tennessee, with a degree in English literature.

    He previously worked as a reporter for the Chattanooga Times, an editor-in-chief at Newsweek, and an executive editor at Random House.

    A trustee of the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History, The McCallie School, and The Harpeth Hall School, Meacham chairs the National Advisory Council of the John C.

    Danforth Center on Religion and Politics at Washington University.
    From the HBO / Kunhardt Film Foundation (KFF) Documentary “The Soul of America.” Based on Jon Meacham's bestseller that illuminates our present-day fraught political reality by exploring historical challenges, including the women's suffrage movement, the incarceration of Japanese Americans, McCarthyism, and the fight for Civil Rights.
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    Jon Meacham, Presidential Biographer and Historian
    Interviewed by: Katie Davison
    Chapters:
    00:00 Intro
    00:07 Importance of implication
    01:04 History out of conflict
    02:25 The Constitution
    04:18 The American experiment
    07:09 Reconstruction
    09:33 Appomattox
    11:46 The Lost Cause
    13:19 Uniting the Union
    14:42 Lincoln
    15:46 Andrew Johnson
    17:13 The Civil War
    18:22 Unite the Right rally
    19:36 War of ideas
    23:40 Confederate monuments
    25:02 White supremacy
    25:32 Religion in The Lost Cause
    27:02 Fighting The Lost Cause
    30:06 Importance of history
    32:16 The KKK
    43:55 Woodrow Wilson
    44:51 The NAACP
    45:32 W.E.B.

    Du Bois
    47:40 Al Smith
    48:58 Nativism
    49:46 The Red Scare
    51:58 Attacks on the press
    53:39 Five elements that shape an era
    55:30 Scopes trial
    57:17 Fall of the KKK
    01:00:31 Harding and Coolidge on race and equality
    01:04:01 ​​Women’s suffrage movement
    01:10:22 Women’s rights today
    01:11:51 Patience and persistence
    01:15:29 Listening to activists
    01:16:39 FDR
    01:26:09 Ego in the presidency
    01:26:55 Populism in the 1930s
    01:30:41 Fear in the 1930s
    01:32:11 Totalitarianism
    01:33:12 Woodrow Wilson and the Lost Cause
    01:34:17 Birth of a Nation
    01:35:39 Overcoming stereotypes
    01:36:47 Growing up in the South
    01:40:16 Cultivating curiosity
    01:42:23 Grandfather’s influence
    01:45:06 Journalism
    01:48:23 Relationship with politics
    01:50:57 Career trajectory
    01:52:55 Finding journalism
    01:54:54 Soul of America
    01:57:21 Being a writer
    01:59:13 Perennial forces in the 1920s
    02:00:07 Politicians and their base
    02:01:03 FDR
    02:03:03 The presidency
    02:04:11 Internment of Japanese Americans
    02:06:26 The isolationist movement of the 1940s
    02:08:42 Handling crisis
    02:10:08 FDR’s death
    02:12:15 Eleanor Roosevelt
    02:13:42 The dual nature of reality
    02:14:34 Joseph Stilwell
    02:15:16 Learning from history
    02:17:12 Social reform
    02:18:35 Private and public working together
    02:20:54 America’s extremes
    02:21:55 McCarthyism
    02:24:27 Politics as entertainment
    02:25:08 Failure of McCarthyism
    02:26:26 Conservative movements of the 1950s
    02:27:33 Conspiracy theories of the 1950s
    02:28:09 The Civil Rights Act
    02:30:50 Civil Rights in the post-war era
    02:32:08 Lyndon B.

    Johnson
    02:40:06 Cause for change
    02:41:53 MLK
    02:42:34 The Selma Marches
    02:45:54 George Wallace
    02:50:35 Lyndon B.

    Johnson’s last speech
    02:51:30 Divisiveness in American
    02:53:51 Progress made between the 1860s and the 1960s
    02:55:32 LBJ not running for re-election
    02:56:23 Lessons
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